AmericanGovSim - dx-4-house-debate

DisguisedJet719 06-Mar-20 07:24 PM

The candidates are: @Joe 2.0! @Häst Ålg @rat randy Please ask any questions now.

Anarchist 06-Mar-20 07:54 PM

Why do you deserve to win?

rat randy 06-Mar-20 07:58 PM

I personally believe that in order to fulfill the needs of the people, you must spend your time near them, interacting. In order to truly be a leader of the people, you need to start out as just that. A person. My campaign has all the momentum it needs to win, and the people can make it happen. I have experience within public service, and I am running for the public. The people. And what we need now more than ever is a spokesman for the people, and I believe that is me. (edited)

rat randy 06-Mar-20 08:14 PM

Let me also announce that I will be taking no salary, and it will be donated to the education programs. (edited)

rat randy 06-Mar-20 08:27 PM

I don’t believe any of my opponents are willing to do that, yes?

Ben 06-Mar-20 08:28 PM

Mr. Rhombus, would you describe yourself as a “Constitutionalist?”

rat randy 06-Mar-20 08:30 PM

I would. The government should work for the people, and not for themselves. People should be free to do as they wish, and nobody is allowed to tell them how to live. Government is meant only to pass law with consent of the governed. The people are what this country was founded on, and by god I will protect it until the day it is gone.

LOTR_1 06-Mar-20 08:31 PM

@Häst Ålg @Joe 2.0! @rat randy What is the most important issue to you and how will you address it if you win?

rat randy 06-Mar-20 08:34 PM

The most important to me is the education and future of our children. I will address it by donating my salary, voting in favor of law for choice of school, and making sure that NOBODY is left out from a proper education. They are the future of this nation, and we need to make the future the best as possible for them and for future generations. All are deserving of schooling.

Ben 06-Mar-20 08:37 PM

@Häst Ålg @Joe 2.0! @rat randy On a scale of 1 (furthest left) to 10 (furthest right), where would you place yourself on the political spectrum, all things considered?

rat randy 06-Mar-20 08:37 PM

I would say I am a moderate. I would rate myself as a 6.

Ben 06-Mar-20 08:38 PM

Follow up: On a scale of 1 (furthest authoritarian) to 10 (furthest libertarian), where would you place yourself on the political spectrum, all things considered?

rat randy 06-Mar-20 08:38 PM

9. Absolutely.

Ben 06-Mar-20 08:43 PM

Thank you.

Trash 07-Mar-20 12:56 AM

@rat randy your recent campaign ad has messages of hope and opportunity. In what policies of yours are those values seen?

Putbye1 07-Mar-20 03:49 AM

@rat randy @Joe 2.0! Do you have any comments on your Federalist opponent's vote against the Democratic Admission of GASNMI Act, and the Working Abroad on Green Solutions Act?

rat randy 07-Mar-20 09:46 AM

@Trash My policies will be hopeful and opportunity giving through the education program and many others. The hope and joy, as well as opportunity that the people want, that is what my campaign aims to do. I plan to assure that the people want me to vote in favor or against bills, and the hope they choose is the hope I aim to give.

@Putbye1 I have no comment on that.

Ben 07-Mar-20 10:13 AM

@rat randy Would you support a constitutional amendment repealing the Roe v. Wade decision? If not, what would you do concerning that Supreme Court decision?

rat randy 07-Mar-20 10:18 AM

@Ben I morally do not support abortion. I believe that women should have reproductive rights, however, it is not a right to kill a fetus, a human child. Those who argue that a fetus is not a child because it does not have sentience, it has potential sentience. Do you support killing someone in a coma because they aren’t sentient? No, because they have potential sentience. You know what else does? Yeah, yeah... So I do believe that abortion is only a right if the mother’s life is in danger. Killing a child based on convenience is despicable. Truly. So to answer your question, yes I do support repealing it unless the mother is in danger. (edited)

Ben 07-Mar-20 10:18 AM

Thank you very much.

rat randy 07-Mar-20 10:55 AM

No problem.

rat randy 07-Mar-20 11:03 AM

However, I may add, I believe that states should have individual laws about it, and not a umbrella law for the whole country.

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 11:24 AM

@Ben May I respond to @rat randy's point?

rat randy 07-Mar-20 11:28 AM

Ah, hello Mr. Murray.

Ben 07-Mar-20 11:40 AM

@Joe 2.0! You can do what you want Mr. Murray. (edited)

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 11:55 AM

Thank You. @rat randy, I would like to respond to your point that somehow women have abortions based on convenience. They do not. The issue of abortion cannot be discussed thoroughly without thoroughly discussing the economics of abortion. Restricting Abortion Access which is what you want to do, will not eliminate abortions, rather, it'll simply make the procedure more dangerous for poor women.

John Smith 07-Mar-20 11:56 AM

I'd like to here both candidates views on the Decreasing Abortion Act recently passed in Dixie

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 11:58 AM

@John Smith I consider myself to be strongly pro-life, but any law designed to restrict access to abortion that does not address the issues that would cause women to have abortions in the first place, I can not support.

John Smith 07-Mar-20 11:59 AM

The Decreasing Abortion Act places no restrictions on abortion itself, and attacks the root causes of abortion

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 11:59 AM

Then I support it.

Ben 07-Mar-20 12:00 PM

Mr. Murray, a question.

John Smith 07-Mar-20 12:00 PM

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bjuRwiFu-XRvH538oCw-e9PZDjmo1jyWNlvgHhoL58Y/edit?usp=drivesdk

Decreasing Abortion Act

IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF DIXIE FEBRUARY 24, 2020 Lohengramm, for himself, introduced the following bill; which was subsequently referred to the Assembly at-large for debate and amendment. A BILL To combat reasons women seek abortions. Be it enacted by the Assembly of the S...

rat randy 07-Mar-20 12:00 PM

It is a good act that has done what my opponent says would be necessary to ban abortion.

Ben 07-Mar-20 12:00 PM

Mr. Murray, did you read the Decreasing Abortion Act before answering?

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 12:02 PM

@Ben I did not.

Ben 07-Mar-20 12:02 PM

Why?

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 12:05 PM

It was a mistake on my part, I was not enrolled in the process when this bill was being written. (edited)

John Smith 07-Mar-20 12:05 PM

But why did you not read it when it was brought up?

Ben 07-Mar-20 12:05 PM

Could you not read it in the archives?

John Smith 07-Mar-20 12:06 PM

Also what is "the server"

rat randy 07-Mar-20 12:06 PM

What’s a server?

Ben 07-Mar-20 12:06 PM

A server is what you need to be for your constituents, and if you don’t read bills before speaking on them, do you think you can do that Mr. Murray?

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 12:08 PM

Of course not, it was stupid on my part.

Ben 07-Mar-20 12:08 PM

Thank you.

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 12:10 PM

@John Smith After reading this law, I can safely say that I support it.

Ben 07-Mar-20 12:10 PM

You sure?

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 12:11 PM

@Ben Yes.

Ben 07-Mar-20 12:11 PM

Thank you.

Mr. Murray, would you go any further than the DAA with new legislation if you win?

On the abortion issue I mean.

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 12:13 PM

@Ben I would propose a separate law that is designed to deal with the pregnancy when it comes to full term.

Ben 07-Mar-20 12:14 PM

Thank you.

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 12:15 PM

@Ben So, what's the next question?

Ben 07-Mar-20 12:15 PM

No further questions from me.

I’m no prosecutor.

rat randy 07-Mar-20 12:15 PM

Would the people want to elect someone to Congress who talks like this to a citizen? (edited)

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 12:20 PM

@rat randy Talk like what?

rat randy 07-Mar-20 12:22 PM

Like your statement just now. In order to represent the district of DX-4, should we not at least have someone who represents themselves in an intellectual manner?

John Smith 07-Mar-20 12:26 PM

Also, you called yourself "strongly pro-life" how do reconcile this with your party, which is pro-choice according to Section 10 of the American Liberal Party Platform @Joe 2.0! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FXHkdB_HJdMJWGvm8fI9wGNW9D0w0u0mw8IaOIBtT9A/edit?usp=sharing

AGS: AMERICAN LIBERAL PARTY PLATFORM

AMERICAN LIBERAL PARTY PLATFORM Inspired by the philosophies of John Locke, the American Liberal Party stands to protect those who have been rendered unable to fight for themselves. Uniting the left in one common front, the American Liberal Party seeks to help represent the p...

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 12:29 PM

@John Smith I consider myself pro-life because like in Sections 3 and 4 the American Liberal Party's platform, I believe in establishing a single-payer healthcare system and in common sense gun control.

rat randy 07-Mar-20 12:30 PM

Wow, that was the greatest non-answer I’ve ever heard.

Ben 07-Mar-20 12:31 PM

Mr. Murray, do you not endorse the pro-abortion plank of the ALP platform? Really I could see you going either way.

rat randy 07-Mar-20 12:32 PM

You do understand pro life means that you are against abortion, correct? @Joe 2.0! (edited)

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 12:34 PM

@rat randy Absolutely, but I understand why women would feel the need to have abortions.

rat randy 07-Mar-20 12:34 PM

But how does a healthcare plan and gun control law have anything to do with it?

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 12:34 PM

@Ben The "pro-choice" stance in the ALP's platform is to make sure that abortion doesn’t have to be a question. I support that. (edited)

Ben 07-Mar-20 12:35 PM

As in pro-abortion on a legal basis.

But yes.

Mr. Murray, would you like to retract your statement that you’re very “pro-life”?

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 12:40 PM

@rat randy Because you cannot call yourself pro-life and condone thousands of Americans dying because they can't afford healthcare.

@Ben No, thank you.

rat randy 07-Mar-20 12:41 PM

They are entirely different. Both are separate issues. Why would I condone death? Whether for a unborn child or a born person? Pro life means anti-abortion, and I keep that stance, thank you.

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 12:44 PM

@rat randy That's where you're mistaken, abortion is a healthcare issue.

rat randy 07-Mar-20 12:44 PM

Is it now? How is that?

Ben 07-Mar-20 12:44 PM

Mr. Rhombus, is abortion a healthcare issue?

And if not, then what kind of issue is it? (edited)

rat randy 07-Mar-20 12:46 PM

It is a moral issue, and a spiritual issue. Not to mention it’s murder, so crime issue. Healthcare coverage is besides the point, if asked a question later I will respond, but that is not what the discussion is about, and I do not wish to get off topic.

Ben 07-Mar-20 12:46 PM

Thank you. (edited)

rat randy 07-Mar-20 12:47 PM

Abortion is interpreted by many as a human right. Is it your right to get something because it’s inconvenient or annoying? When you have sex, you take the risk of having a baby.

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 12:48 PM

@rat randy Abortion is a healthcare issue, because by denying access to abortion to low-income women, that affects their health, that affects their lives in a negative way.

@rat randy What is the pregnancy has come as a result of unwanted sex?

Ben 07-Mar-20 12:49 PM

Mr. Murray I have another question if I may.

rat randy 07-Mar-20 12:50 PM

I hold the stance that if it is absolutely necessary, and the mother is on the verge of being harmed, then that is the only time if is acceptable, and it should be covered the same as other things. Second question. In rape cases, the rapist should have to pay for child support and medical things. The only other time it is acceptable is in a rape case.

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 12:50 PM

@Ben Of course.

Ben 07-Mar-20 12:51 PM

Mr. Murray, do you have anything to say about the lifelong negative medical and psychological issues that come to mothers who have abortions?

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 12:55 PM

@Ben Well, I've just read a study where it was found that women having an abortion do not experience negative psychological reactions as a result.

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rat randy 07-Mar-20 12:56 PM

Care to provide us that study?

Ben 07-Mar-20 12:56 PM

Really? But it is true that many women who have abortions later regret them, suffer from PTSD, and sometimes even commit suicide. This being besides the damage that it does to a woman’s womb and internal body in some cases.

That’s what I was asking about.

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 12:56 PM

@rat randy https://time.com/4599806/abortion-doesnt-negatively-affect-womens-mental-health-study/

Abortion Doesn’t Negatively Affect Mental Health

That's according to the largest study of its kind

rat randy 07-Mar-20 12:56 PM

Thank you.

Ben 07-Mar-20 12:57 PM

I have no further questions.

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 12:59 PM

@rat randy That was a good debate.

rat randy 07-Mar-20 01:04 PM

I agree.

Ben 07-Mar-20 01:28 PM

@Häst Ålg Why should voters vote for you over Mr. Rhombus or Mr. Murray?

Häst Ålg 07-Mar-20 01:49 PM

Well that's simple, I'm doing my best to limit unnecessary spending within the government and am currently I'm there process of drafting a bill to do just that. I intend to present it to Congress within the week, and from there I will let the results speak for me whether positive or negative.

Ben 07-Mar-20 01:49 PM

What do you think of abortion?

John Smith 07-Mar-20 01:50 PM

I'd like to hear the candidates thoughts on the possibility of officially recognizing the Armenian Genocide and condemning the Turkish government for covering it up

Ben 07-Mar-20 01:51 PM

And while we’re at it, how about the Rape of Nanking and other awful atrocities committed by the Imperial Japanese that have been largely ignored on an international level? (edited)

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 02:02 PM

@John Smith If there was a resolution condemning the Armenian Genocide and the Turkish Government's involvement, I would support it.

Häst Ålg 07-Mar-20 02:06 PM

Abortion is a tricky topic, politically I am for it as long as there is no government involvement. However I am morally against it, but I do not wish to force my morals onto others. @Ben

Ben 07-Mar-20 02:08 PM

Another question, Hast.

Using the same logic, would you support allowing murder in general to become legal, due to its being illegal on moral grounds?

Häst Ålg 07-Mar-20 02:27 PM

No, anything that violates the rights of others or threatens to harm individuals or their property shouldn't be tolerated or made legal. Which is why I said abortion is a tricky issue for me.

Ben 07-Mar-20 02:27 PM

Ah, okay.

Thank you.

LOTR_1 07-Mar-20 05:10 PM

@rat randy education is perhaps the number one issue we face. What are your thoughts and proposals for the issue?

rat randy 07-Mar-20 05:11 PM

I plan to donate my salary to people who cannot afford a proper schooling. I also plan to vote in favor of all proposals to increase education funding, unless it is impractical for our nation. I plan to propose a bill to abolish Common Core, as it has done no good for our students and teachers, and it is only holding us back from the great things we can do as a nation.

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 05:18 PM

@LOTR_1 1. Get rid of Common Core 2. Commit to cutting the average class size in half in the next 5 years 3. Cancel all federal funding for privately-owned charter schools 4. Raise the minimum salary for a teacher to $60,000 per year, and raise salaries of other workers to $40,000 per year. (edited)

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@rat randy We finally agree on something, it's a miracle!

rat randy 07-Mar-20 05:21 PM

Lol.

Question for you, if you don’t mind. @Joe 2.0!

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 05:22 PM

@rat randy Of course. (edited)

rat randy 07-Mar-20 05:22 PM

What is your opinion on the distribution of narcotics across the southern border, and what do you plan to do about it?

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 05:27 PM

@rat randy It stems from our failed war on drugs as well as a disastrous imperialist conquest in the global south. I would propose a law to not only decriminalize all drugs (besides marijuana, which I want to legalize), I would lobby the president to release all non-violent drug offenders from prison, and to open safe drug havens in every congressional district in the 3 states as well as in our territories. (edited)

rat randy 07-Mar-20 05:28 PM

What do you think would be the benefit of allowing harmful substances to the populace?

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 05:30 PM

@rat randy It would not "allow" harmful substances, but it would begin to treat drug addiction as what it is: a public health problem instead of criminalizing people.

John Smith 07-Mar-20 05:36 PM

Dixie has already decriminalized drugs and legalized marijuana, why have you continously shown to be behind on the political times of Dixie, and can you represent people when you have no idea about the current law?

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 05:37 PM

@John Smith I want to see to it that these policies are carried out at the national level.

John Smith 07-Mar-20 05:38 PM

But were you aware this had occurred in Dixie before I brought it up?

rat randy 07-Mar-20 05:40 PM

Also, I am confused as to why you added 47 states in your statement. Is there not only three?

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 05:41 PM

@John Smith Yes, I was.

John Smith 07-Mar-20 05:42 PM

If you were, could you name the legislation that did so?

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 05:42 PM

@rat randy I'm not talking just talking about Dixie, I'm talking about Northern and Jefferson. Seeing as these policies have been implemented successfully locally, it makes sense to me to carry out these policies nationally.

rat randy 07-Mar-20 05:45 PM

And you are aware that my party had passed these laws, correct?

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 05:47 PM

@rat randy Yes, and I thank your party for passing these laws.

@John Smith It was called the Addiction Treatment Act, if I recall.

John Smith 07-Mar-20 05:48 PM

Also why did you mention 50 states? There's only 3

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 05:49 PM

@John Smith I've just edited my statement.

John Smith 07-Mar-20 05:50 PM

But why did it state that originally?

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 05:51 PM

@John Smith It was my mistake, I thought that there were 50 states that were counted separately instead of being lumped together in 3. (edited)

rat randy 07-Mar-20 05:51 PM

What 50 states?

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 05:52 PM

None at all, Randy.

John Smith 07-Mar-20 05:54 PM

How do you explain the constant lack of current political knowledge and contradictions that have plagued your campaign? (edited)

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 05:56 PM

@John Smith Well, I'll happily admit that I'm new to politics and I'm not well-connected unlike Randy. But, what I can offer this district is a relentless fighter for what's right and just.

John Smith 07-Mar-20 05:57 PM

I see, but do you admit it was incompetence on your part?

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 05:59 PM

@John Smith Yes. And my blunt honesty is perhaps another liability in the political sphere.

rat randy 07-Mar-20 06:01 PM

Couldn’t help but notice. @Häst Ålg is inactive to the point he has answered a whopping total of 1 question. Is this who you want to be a congressman? A person who rests during important debate time that decides the future or our nation? Or a hard working, innovative, persistent individual such as myself? You decide.

Joe 2.0! 07-Mar-20 06:01 PM

@rat randy Thanks for the endorsement.

rat randy 07-Mar-20 06:01 PM

?

I believe you’re mistaken.

John Smith 07-Mar-20 06:03 PM

It is strange that the incumbent in this election is saying the least, and hasn't even mentioned any bills he's written or sponsored, if there are any. @Häst Ålg how do you respond to that?

Lohengramm 07-Mar-20 07:46 PM

@Häst Ålg why should you stay in office despite having done very little, and being less active?

rat randy 08-Mar-20 09:27 AM

I’m also in favor of abolishing daylight savings. Fairly sure this is self explanatory.

rat randy 08-Mar-20 01:25 PM

@Häst Ålg You seem quite incompetent, considering you have nearly no known record of activity in the house or here. Why should anyone trust someone who has answered a whopping total of 1 questions, do you feel as if you are entitled to run since you are incumbent? I personally have seen you do nothing, and I would bet money the same would happen if you win today.

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Ben 08-Mar-20 01:30 PM

Hast, in his Senate race Order has answered many questions and been quite thoughtful to voters’ questions from both sides. He’s an incumbent as well, and in fact has run unopposed all election; can’t you follow his example of not apparently taking your seat for granted? (edited)

rat randy 08-Mar-20 04:52 PM

@Häst Ålg What is your opinion on the words and phrases Cabin has been using, and do you endorse this way of trying to win? With leaders such as this, why should we trust you to lead, plus your negative track record only adds more reasons to avoid you.

April 08-Mar-20 05:02 PM

Question for all Candidates: Do you support implementing a Universal Basic Income nationwide?

rat randy 08-Mar-20 05:16 PM

Absolutely not. It has been proven that it leads to inflation and laziness, slowing the economy for real growth. Welfare needs to be tied to people actively searching for jobs to make a living, or to people who can prove their income is so low they deeply need the assistance . And that should be a state level thing to deal with. A blank check to every citizen is wasted taxpayer money, we don't know, hell, they could easily abuse it. And the taxes they pay should not be used to give to other people without a choice, that is theft, and that is not okay.

NYCDOT 08-Mar-20 05:16 PM

What proof do you have?

rat randy 08-Mar-20 05:17 PM

https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/397192-implementation-of-a-universal-basic-income-program-would-be-a-disaster

Implementation of a 'universal basic income' program would be a dis...

Not surprisingly, most of the supporters are young people and Democrats.

It is an opinion article, however it uses tried and true facts.